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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230387295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230387295">(Mar 15 2021 at 17:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>30 minute warning for our meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230387377" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230387377">(Mar 15 2021 at 17:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Agenda: <a href="https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/rJAVRGpmd">https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/rJAVRGpmd</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230391768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230391768">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Meeting time <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230391896" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230391896">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>starting with action item review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230391903" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230391903">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/UrERZvi5RwyxfGvo-RtC6g?both">https://hackmd.io/UrERZvi5RwyxfGvo-RtC6g?both</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230391923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230391923">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>still finishing up the blog post</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230391945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230391945">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>didn't have a chance to make the last few changes I wanted to last week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230391988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230391988">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it's almost done and ready for review and publish</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392080">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I did go ahead and create tracking issues for a few action items that have been sitting around for a while</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392118" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392118">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>though all of those are low priority ideas that we shouldn't worry too much about in the near term</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392148" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392148">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>since I think we're already more or less working at capacity and don't need to pick up more work right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392159" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392159">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I wanted to make sure the ideas don't get lost</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392256">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> has been working on the diagram for the book</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392265">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is coming along nicely</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392385" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392385">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> how goes the book examples?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392418">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I haven't gotten around to any of that since the last meeting, with job interviews and other life stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392519">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344196">@Jakub Duchniewicz</span> and I figured out the error for the <code>rust-sv</code> crate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392532" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392532">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I'm going to go ahead and mark that one done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392622" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392622">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> are you still planning on updating the tracking issue for the "Fix the error trait" issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392700" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392700">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure if DPC is here today so I'll keep going and they can reply later when they're around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392704">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>ask libs / lang teams for recommendations on including 3rd party libraries in our book</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392718">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I went ahead and created a zulip topic for this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392739">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>the conclusion was that we're more or less okay with mentioning 3rd party libraries in the book</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392775" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392775">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>here is the relevant thread <a href="#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/3rd.20party.20libraries.20in.20official.20books.2Fdocumentation">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/3rd.20party.20libraries.20in.20official.20books.2Fdocumentation</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230392802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230392802">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll go ahead and make an action item for summarizing the discussion into a plan going forward</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393202">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Jakub is working on the termination trait stabilization</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393206">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>and that seems to be going well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393279" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393279">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>oliver has been busy lately but has triaged a bunch of potential issues for us</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393300">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393301" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393301">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393344">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's all I've got for the existing action items, so lets move onto those triage issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393404">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>(low priority) <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/80846">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/80846</a></li>
<li>(out of scope) <a href="https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/syntax-for-returning-early-with-an-error/14181">https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/syntax-for-returning-early-with-an-error/14181</a></li>
<li>(out of scope, superceded by try trait v2) <a href="#narrow/stream/144729-wg-traits/topic/specialization.3A.20exclude.20traits.20or.20types/near/229141547">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/144729-wg-traits/topic/specialization.3A.20exclude.20traits.20or.20types/near/229141547</a></li>
<li><a href="#narrow/stream/146212-t-compiler.2Fconst-eval/topic/static_assert.20for.20const.20generics/near/229109938">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/146212-t-compiler.2Fconst-eval/topic/static_assert.20for.20const.20generics/near/229109938</a></li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393414">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I took a look at these before hte meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393444" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393444">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>the first one is an issue about differences between <code>std::panic!</code> and <code>core::panic!</code> behaviour</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393474">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I more or less agree with Mara on this one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393519">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>the issue is already an edge case that most people don't encounter or complain about and its been fixed in 2021</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393568">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I think we should focus on more important issues, particularly getting <code>dyn Error</code> integrated with panics</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393616">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>the second issue is a forum thread about <code>try</code> syntax</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393689">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is a lang team concern and is explicitly out of scope for PG-Error-Handling according to our charter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393708">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I don't think we should get involved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393733" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393733">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>the 3rd one is a thread about negative trait bounds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230393817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230393817">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>my understanding is that negative trait bounds wouldn't work well with the rest of our trait solving engine and would make it undecidable, which is why the lang team is working on specialization instead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394009">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>and the specific issue they bring up, overlap on <code>From</code> impls for catch all error types is already potentially resolved by the new <code>Try</code> trait RFC, which makes it possible to handle the <code>From</code> impl as part of the <code>Try</code> type that wraps the catch all error, freeing it from overlap</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394035">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is covered in my blog post</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394083" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394083">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I also don't think we should bother pursuing negative reasoning to fix this issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394102">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>the last one is a diagnostic issue within the compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394195" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394195">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can absolutely help with it if they would like our help, though I'm not sure we should be spending time with error handling implementation details, particularly within the compiler where they don't rely as much on the <code>Error</code> trait interface.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394242">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll leave it up to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> if he would like us to jump in and help out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394374">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394375">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394535">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that's it for what I wanted to talk about, does anyone else have something they would like to bring up?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394723">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Still working on the graphic display</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394776" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394776">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Nothing on my end</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394806" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394806">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>alrighty</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394835" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394835">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we can call this meeting early then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394850" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394850">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394852">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to bring up?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if you're ready to end the meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394893" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394893">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>ty everyone ^_^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230394927" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230394927">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks jane</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395228" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395228">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15/near/230394242">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I'll leave it up to <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="124288">oli</span> if he would like us to jump in and help out</p>
</blockquote>
<p>sorry, I'm in no-new-projects mode already and will stay on that for the next 4 months</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395438" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395438">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> for context this is referring to this thread of yours from last week <a href="#narrow/stream/146212-t-compiler.2Fconst-eval/topic/static_assert.20for.20const.20generics/near/229109938">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/146212-t-compiler.2Fconst-eval/topic/static_assert.20for.20const.20generics/near/229109938</a>, and helping you with your question about error reporting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395460" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395460">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>so not necessarily a new project</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395500">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>just wondering if you wanted our support on your existing issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395535">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>but happy to leave it to yall</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395706">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Just jumping in. Terribly sorry, got a last minute meeting rn.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395720" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395720">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, I thought this was about something different. I think we're good on that end, thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395726" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395726">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry I'm afk also</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230395783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230395783">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>no worries, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344196">@Jakub Duchniewicz</span> and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> feel free to drop status updates whenever you've got time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230396112" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230396112">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>reading the backtrace rn <span aria-label="eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f440" role="img" title="eyes">:eyes:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230396587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230396587">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15/near/230393279">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>oliver has been busy lately but has triaged a bunch of potential issues for us</p>
</blockquote>
<p>which issues are these?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397074">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>are those the legacy issues I started reviewing? or did you mean oli?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397179">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15/near/230393404">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>(low priority) <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/80846">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/80846</a></li>
<li>(out of scope) <a href="https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/syntax-for-returning-early-with-an-error/14181">https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/syntax-for-returning-early-with-an-error/14181</a></li>
<li>(out of scope, superceded by try trait v2) <a href="#narrow/stream/144729-wg-traits/topic/specialization.3A.20exclude.20traits.20or.20types/near/229141547">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/144729-wg-traits/topic/specialization.3A.20exclude.20traits.20or.20types/near/229141547</a></li>
<li><a href="#narrow/stream/146212-t-compiler.2Fconst-eval/topic/static_assert.20for.20const.20generics/near/229109938">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/146212-t-compiler.2Fconst-eval/topic/static_assert.20for.20const.20generics/near/229109938</a></li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>these 4</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397185" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397185">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I assumed you put those on the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397205" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397205">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>omg yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397364">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry okay thanks for looking at them, your review was all I was looking for</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397497">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>my to-do list currently has: </p>
<p>- update API guidelines to add a section on implementing <code>Display</code> vs <code>source</code><br>
  - create an issue tracking the desire for an <code>abort</code>ing interface for <code>panic</code>s<br>
  - create an issue for a non-allocating interface for printing <code>Backtrace</code><br>
  - implement <code>Iterator</code> trait on <code>Frames</code> type from backtrace frames PR<br>
  - error design patterns book<br>
    - writing<br>
    - reference review<br>
    - reading group<br>
    - review open issues for those related to error handling<br>
  - fix the error trait<br>
  - collect references into the GitHub repo</p>
<p>But I think I need to revisit some of these</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397658">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>the 2nd and 3rd ones are already done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397673" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397673">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>so you can take those off of your todo list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397689">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Fixing the Error Trait currently has:</p>
<p>- do some more work on the formatting implementations<br>
    - <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/71706">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/71706</a><br>
  - review remaining questions on <code>Debug</code> formatting<br>
    - <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65280">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65280</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397708">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>the formatting implementatoins for the error trait are already in a good spot afaik</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397735">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>might the related issues be closed?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397737">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>and the plan was to update the checklist to indicate that we no longer plan on implementing the precision suggestion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397750" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397750">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>or that it can be done separately</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397832" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397832">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span> already fixed the inconsistency in backtrace formatting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397908">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15/near/230397735">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>might the related issues be closed?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>i don't think so, since we still probably want to do them some day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230397943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230397943">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>we just don't want it to be a blocker on closing the "Fix the error trait" issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398068" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398068">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>also I just realized i did this meeting an hour early</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398099">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>didn't realize the DST switchover happened</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398145" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398145">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>wait, really? omg I'm so confused today also</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398162">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398187">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>according to the calendar all the meetings got pushed back 1 hour</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398382">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes the rls wg also met an hour early</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398568">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> help</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398570">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Unknown command.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398637" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398637">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344196">@Jakub Duchniewicz</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> just to confirm, does moving the meeting to 12 based on the DST change work with y'all's schedules?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398681" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398681">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thought it was the regular meeting time <span aria-label="coffee" class="emoji emoji-2615" role="img" title="coffee">:coffee:</span>️</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398698">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>it was at 11am</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398746" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398746">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>but when the clock shifted 1 hour forward the meeting became later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398862">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>so what's the new timing for the next meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398870">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>the meeting is over, let's start the meeting? <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398933" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398933">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398947" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398947">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>it would be 10 minutes from now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230398959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230398959">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>but not this week since we already did the meeting early</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399018">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15/near/230392622">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="120823">DPC</span> are you still planning on updating the tracking issue for the "Fix the error trait" issue?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>sorry, had a busy week. Yeah will update it before the next meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399077">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>to make matters simpler or more complicated, Europe moves 1 hour forward on 28.03</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399099">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>x.x</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399181">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Jane, noon your time is 2pm my time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399187">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm just gonna rely on google calendar keeping things less confusing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399229" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399229">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>and ill keep creating the topics early to give warning of when the meetings are</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399277" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399277">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>and we can move the meeting time if we start running into schedule conflicts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399330" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399330">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>so i'm assuming the next meeting would be at <time datetime="2021-03-29T19:00:00Z">2021-03-29T21:00:00+02:00</time> ? or an hour before that ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399399" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399399">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>that sounds right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399417" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399417">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is that CST?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399470" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399470">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>that timing will show in your local timezone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399502" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399502">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yeah i used CEST (summer time)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399525">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>or UTC+2 from 28.03 onwards</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399548">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>date -d "next monday 3pm ADT"</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399639">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you have unix terminal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399657">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>not next monday though, the one after that <span aria-label="wink" class="emoji emoji-1f609" role="img" title="wink">:wink:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399683">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is for our next meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399788" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399788">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>ᴦ date -d 'now'
Mon 15 Mar 2021 03:56:07 PM ADT</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230399880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230399880">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>ᴦ TZ=CST date -d 'now'
Mon 15 Mar 2021 06:57:02 PM CST</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230400025" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230400025">(Mar 15 2021 at 18:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway 'time zones are confusing' isn't news much less the semi-annual arbitrary offsetting <span aria-label="grimacing" class="emoji emoji-1f62c" role="img" title="grimacing">:grimacing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230401014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230401014">(Mar 15 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw you can use <code>&lt;time</code> <span aria-label="grinning" class="emoji emoji-1f600" role="img" title="grinning">:grinning:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230401270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230401270">(Mar 15 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah that works too, except Zulip follows my VPN around the world, <code>date</code> uses my system local TZ</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230401308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230401308">(Mar 15 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230401593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230401593">(Mar 15 2021 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is this: <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/change-timezone-time-shift/">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/change-timezone-time-shift/</a> which is what I need</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230401852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230401852">(Mar 15 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually it might not be my VPN causing this it could be my distro</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230402035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230402035">(Mar 15 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>is preventing my browser access to my location</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-03-15/near/230474917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-03-15.html#230474917">(Mar 16 2021 at 08:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Was too tired to update yesterday <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span> As for me:</p>
<ul>
<li><code>rust-sv</code> is done -&gt; PR is submitted</li>
<li>the <code>Termination</code> trait seems to be going in the good direction (we need to investigate the stored type as <code>ExitCode</code> u8 vs isize`<br>
Moving the meeting works for me <span aria-label="cool" class="emoji emoji-1f192" role="img" title="cool">:cool:</span></li>
</ul>



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